How to Safely Split Equity with Co-founders and Partners (S14E3)

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Day 2 kicks off with a high-stakes lesson on equity, investing, and valuation—because who doesn’t love poker chips when the game is business? The Bloxers are learning how to divvy up equity to bring in the right talent and skills without blowing through their cash. It’s all about getting what you need while holding onto what you’ve got. For the challenge, each contestant must propose the ideal equity partner they’re looking to bring on board and outline the structure of the relationship—no easy feat when your future is on the line. After some game-changing consults, the Bloxers gear up for the Blox-Off, where they’ll face role-playing questions from a potential investor.

Let’s learn a little bit more about why this Bloxer crash course in equity is so very important.

The "gap" between where we are now and where we're aiming to go often feels like the Grand Canyon—massive and daunting. To bridge this, startups need to gather a lot of inputs—whether it's services, vendors, or staff—to create the outputs that will drive growth. In the early stages, founders must find creative ways to source the funds needed to get traction, without giving away too much of their company in the process. Equity is an option, but giving away too much early on can leave you with an empty "pie." Once it's gone, it's gone.

To avoid these pitfalls, we explore the concept of a fixed equity split and the importance of building a vesting schedule. This allows founders to negotiate a stock percentage that isn’t given upfront but earned gradually over time. This approach prevents dead equity and protects your business. A crucial part of this process is determining the value of your company, so how do you calculate that valuation? We dive into strategies to help you put a fair number on the table when it comes to equity discussions.

Using Equity as Currency 

To bridge the gap between where you are now and where you need to be to become fully financeable, many entrepreneurs need to think of their equity as currency. In the early stages of business, when cash is tight, offering equity can be a powerful way to attract the talent, partners, or resources you need without spending money you don’t have. Think of equity as poker chips—each time you give some away, you’re betting on that person or asset to bring significant value to your company. This approach allows you to build momentum and bring crucial skills on board, but it requires careful consideration to ensure you're making smart investments in your team and your future.

Understanding an Equity Split  

An equity split occurs when you offer a co-founder, vendor, or partner a share of your company’s ownership in exchange for their expertise or contribution, with no option to take it back. This means that once the deal is struck, the ownership percentage you give away remains theirs, even if the person leaves the company or stops providing value. It’s a long-term commitment, and the percentage doesn’t change, no matter the circumstances. Without legal tools in place to protect you, this can lead to complications if the person underdelivers or exits prematurely, so it’s critical to structure equity agreements carefully from the outset.

Avoiding "Dead Equity"  

Dead equity refers to ownership in your company that is held by someone who is no longer adding value to the business. This often happens when a co-founder or partner leaves, either by quitting or getting fired, yet retains their equity stake because there was no legal mechanism in place to reclaim it. Having dead equity can burden your business, as you’re essentially giving away a portion of your company to someone who isn’t contributing. Preventing dead equity requires having strong legal protections and clearly defined agreements that allow you to claw back equity if certain conditions aren’t met.

The Importance of a Cliff  

A cliff is a protective measure for founders that adds a time-based condition to equity agreements. In essence, it ensures that the person receiving equity won’t actually own any of it until they’ve provided a minimum level of work or value over a specified period. This serves as a safeguard for the founder, ensuring that equity isn’t given away prematurely, and protects the business from situations where partners or employees leave before fully earning their stake. A cliff incentivizes long-term commitment and ensures that the equity you’re giving away is tied to measurable contributions.

Recognizing Yourself as the Biggest Investor  

Entrepreneurs often overlook the fact that they are the largest investor in their own business. Every hour, every dollar, and every resource poured into the business is an investment. It’s important to understand that your business is not just a passion project—it’s an asset that should generate value. Being able to track how your inputs—whether it’s time, money, or talent—translate into growth and value creation is vital. Entrepreneurs need to take a step back and view their business from an investment perspective, evaluating returns, assessing risks, and making data-driven decisions to increase the business's overall value.

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